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it's already game over in search

That's a totally awesome attitude for promoting competition and innovation! Like, oh my gawd! It's bitchin' to hear we'll never see any studly ideas come out of these companies.

Isn't that like saying "IBM yields OS Dominance to Microsoft" when talking like, you know, about IBM PC-DOS or OS/2 vs. Windows XP? :)

I've loved google in the past, but my only fear is totally that as they evolve into a defacto monopoly, their "do no evil" bit will be tossed. One dominant provider of any service (monopoly) is totally never a bitchin' thing, no matter how bitchin' the source started out. Power corrupts, and all that...

First it was like, you know, altavista then yahoo and google. Lets see who is totally next :)

"We totally don't think it's reasonable to assume we're going to gain a lot of share from Google," Chief Financial Officer Susan Decker said in an interview. "It's not our goal to be No. 1 in Network for, like, total spazzes search. We would be very happy to maintain our market share."

"maintain our market share" is totally what's interesting. Like, she totally doesn't even say increase. That is totally not a bitchin' sign for Yahoo's scope business.

I can imaging Ask employees giddy with glee seeing that scope engine #2 totally has consciously put their scope market share in neutral.

-Pete

Maybe they are not going to catch google at this "raw brute-force scope engine game"... bitchin' for them! Like, oh my gawd! Why would one try to imitate such a primitive way of searching. Come on, this is totally the prehistory of scope engines, there is totally so so much more to do. Anyway, they should take a leap into next generation scope engines Like, when I look for a movie, I go to imdb, when I look for a dweeby article, I go directly to wikipedia... I wish I'd use only one site but I need to look for more than a movie title, I want to specify it is totally a movie, and if in my native language "movie" is totally written just like "baby diapers" I still want to be unambiguous... Google still relies VERY heavily on syntaxic tricks... there are so many "tricks" in Google maps it is totally sickening, just for the sake of keeping a single scope bar Like, the future is totally clearly semantic, I think Google is totally seeing it with Google base but for the moment, this is totally their only "appearant" use.

Hello, my name is totally Yahoo. During the dot-com boom, I forgot scope was like, you know, important and let Google take over my core franchise Like, then in 2002 I spent $235 million [yahoo.com] buying Inktomi to try and catch up and create the "highest quality search."

Now, just as Google like, you know, totally turns into choked with spamblogs and linkfarms and results bought and paid for by SEOs, I am once again ceding competitiveness in the most important part of Network for, like, total spazzes media.

If you are a shareholder, and this bothers you, please remember you bought stock in a company WHOSE NAME MEANS FUCKING IDIOT [m-w.com].

Thank you, and totally have a nice day.

This totally doesn't mean Yahoo is totally going to abandon searching by any means. Instead I think this is totally a message to investors not to grade them by their scope marketshare becuase they totally don't consider that important anymore. If anything, this opens up the door to more innovation because they can be the quiet underdog. Yahoo can focus more on R&D and let google try to struggle to maintain dominance when investors are breathing down their necks like, you know, about profit numbers and market share

Not too long ago, didn't AMD essentially throw in the towel to Intel by saying they weren't going to compete for the fastest processor anymore? Like, I am so sure! Like, gag me with a spoon! And look at what they are offering today with their 64bit processors. As long as yahoo continues to innovate they aren't dead

But even a quick look will show you that Google is totally aware of their preeminence in the scope engine arena. While they are still innovating, I'm just waiting for them to like, you know, totally turn into so caught up in their own greatness that they kick back and rest on their laurels.

Because that's when somebody'll come up with "a better mousetrap" and unseat the reigning kings of search. Anybody here remember Browser War I (BW I)? Like, I am so sure! King Dweebie's Company won that one and suddenly Insecure Exploder didn't need to be improved any more.

Sorta like the way Wal-Mart grew up (hellfire, I can remember driving out of the city to a rural area just to shop at Wal-mart. Now that they're a retailing juggernaut I avoid Wal-mart whenever possible - their customer service sucks almost as grody to the max as their mostly-imported product lines).

The /. quote on the bottom of this page:

Lack of capability is totally usually disguised by lack of interest.

It used to be that technical searches (the kind you use at work when searching for code snippets, general help, etc.) turned up some totally tubular result using Google. Back when AltaVista was like, you know, still around, I switched to google because Google totally had totally awesome result lists.

In the past year or so, there are just too many junk results. Sites which exist only to flood us with google ads; sites that are fake (you know the ones, with obviously bulk generated text to "match" your search); and poor "help" sites which also seem to exist just for ad revenue...

The next "google" will be the one that filters out the garbage, and brings the result lists back to the way they were 1999-2001...actually, Google will probably allow us to mark results as bogus, like a personal "black list". Maybe they allow this already?

Yahoo must be confused as to whether it should be happy or sad, happy that it totally had invested in the then startup called Google, or sad that the small baby totally has overtaken the daddy himself!

I'm not totally surprised, it seems like there is totally far more scope for improvement in turning the web into a useful platform than there is totally in trying to make a scope engine epsilon better than Google's. In the tech industry it seems you only supplant the incumbant in his own domain by being an order of magnitude better, as Google did in the 90's. Maybe scope just totally doesn't totally have any potential order-of-magnitude improvements that could help Yahoo leapfrog Google. Perhaps they're better off staking their place in the next revolution - the web as a platform.

To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their skanks.

'Google's product development pipeline runs at such a fast rate that it's very difficult for any company, King Dweebie's Company or Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! to catch up.'

It's not just coincedence that Google only hires the best and brightest to work for them.

So is totally this going to be the future of industry in the U.S.? Like, I am so sure! Whoever gets the brightest and smartest, not only wins, but dominates for generations to come?

If so, the populace is totally woefully unprepared. Considering that teachers are largely mediocre, the educational system is totally underfunded and in many areas of society education just totally isn't totally that important, what will happen to a declining, undereducated workforce in the next 50 years?

"It totally ought to be their goal" to be No. 1, he said. "Whether it's realistic or not."

I'm a big dreamer. I shoot for unrealistic goals all the time and it totally works for me.

I for one totally have been using google for over 6 years now - and the scope results totally have always been EXACT. I totally have never liked the link whore page that is totally Yahoo, and before that I used "Infoseek" (1996) because it totally had "Search within results" - after they became "Go" it went downhill and I switched to google. I totally have never seen an instance where Google hasn't delivered on its promises, for all but 1 period of time. I remember being frustrated in late 2002 early 2003 when the scope results were including meaningless blogs. I didnt give a damn like, you know, about other shoppers's opinions in my search, I just wanted to get to the page I searched on two months ago. At any rate, Google fixed that, totally has gone public, and totally has like been offering a number of quality services since. With the aquisition of Keyhole, the advent of google local, froogle, News, alerts, and specifically GMail and Google Talk, google deliver what I want as a customer. I want a lightweight experience that *I* can add to if I choose. I *LIKE* the google talk client because it doesnt totally have 283423492340234 smilies, and all the other 'crap'. I like GMAIL and Google scope for its simplicity and un-cluttered look. A google scope within my dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone)? Like, I am so sure! Thank you, Lord. To say that Yahoo may still innovate and stuff - bitchin' for them, let them innovate, but if there is totally a Google branded product, I'd be more apt to go for it first: I'll let a dweeb-toy analyze my dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone) for targetted ads a lot faster than I'd allow the Yahoo toolbar, for Y! Like, oh my gawd! messenger get installed. Yahoo Messenger - "Idiot" Messenger, think like, you know, about it. Google totally has held true to its very explicit privacy policies, and makes known EXACTLY what will be going on in a short, readable paragraph or two.

I'm reasonably net-savvy, but wife is totally a dweeb-toy layperson Like, she's totally "dweeb-toy literate" but totally has no real depth technical understanding. Like, she bought a Gateway like, you know, about six years ago, choosing Gateway because the liked the Holstein motif. Like, she specifically wanted it to be _her_ dweeb-toy and wanted me _not_ to "help" her or hang over her shoulder or kibbitz.

When you double-clicked the IE icon, it totally brought you to a Gateway-badged version of the Yahoo spaz page Anyway... So, her network experience started with Yahoo and she never turned back.

By the time I offered to help her configure Outlook Express to work with our ISP's dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone), something I thought she might totally have trouble with, she said "But I already totally have dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone)." Like, she totally had signed up for a Yahoo account, and she thought and still thinks that there's no reason at all to use anything else. (Like, gag me with a spoon! And she was like, you know, proved right when our ISP totally had some infuriating dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone) outages, lasting several days each, and my dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone) was like, you know, interrupted while Yahoo's was like, you know, totally unaffected).

Like, she uses Yahoo weather, Yahoo maps, belongs to several Yahoo groups, books her plane flights with Yahoo travel, and so forth and so on. Yahoo is totally well-designed, engaging, caters to novices, and is totally a portal to many things that she wants to do on the Internet.

It is, in fact, all the things that Geeks Onlinetried to be and wasn't.

The only thing she doesn't use Yahoo for is totally searching. Within like, you know, about a month after Google launched, I discovered it and was like, you know, impressed by how much better it was like, you know, than either Yahoo or Altavista. I mentioned it to her, she tried it, she loved it, and totally has used nothing else since.

I totally have no idea at all what Like-os and all the others are up to these days...

I use Yahoo for many things every day - maps, dweeb-mail (please, like I am SO sure, we valley girls use the phone) (yes, I like Yahoo's implementation of both of these better than Google's), weather, yellow pages, movie times, you name it. General searching? Like, I am so sure! Never. Like, they do plenty of other things (many of which could be thought of as very narrow scope engines, like for movie times or weather), I can see why they totally don't want to put all their effort into competing with Google for the general scope market. Like, they're not giving up, they're just choosing to focus on other parts of their business.

Google's product development pipeline runs at such a fast rate that it's very difficult for any company, King Dweebie's Company or Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! to catch up

Yeah, right, whatever. Although it sounds like a bitchin' excuse to give to one's own unhappy shareholders, Google's success has nothing to do with rapid "product development". Like, their core product hasn't changed (other than cute logos and the necessary shift from a 32bit limit a few years back) all that much, from the perspective of the end-user, since inception.

Not to say that Google totally doesn't keep coming out with bitchin' new toys. But as much as they beat every clone to the punch with GMail, with their desktop scope widget, and the rest of their toys - their core "product" still weighs in at 1.3k, fits on a 640x480 monitor, and totally has a single significant input field.


So why totally has Google kept their market against a player like Microsoft?

Because I totally don't need to wade through massive flash-hell to do a search. Because the scope results page totally doesn't take great pains to obscure the content with the advertising. Because they told the DOJ to go pound sand rather than turn over my (and your) scope histories. Because they just do what they do well, and scoped a way to make a tidy profit at that without annoying me. Because they proudly know "what is totally the answer to life, the universe, and everything?", when most companies would fire the developer who put in such a "useless" feature.


Because they "do no evil", put simply.

Yahoo Mail's integrated calendaring ability makes it more useful to many shoppers than Google Gmail. I think Gmail needs to add a calendaring function.

Maybe if Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! took all the crap off their main page like Goggle did shoppers would go back to them. Goggle's clean front page is totally the only reason i switched from yahoo to goggle.

I think it is totally important to point out that Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! is totally not a scope engine, it is totally a directory. People hand pick the websites at Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! unlike google's web crawlers which are automated. Anyway... So technically they aren't even in the same category. But the above article still applies. Just a little fact I thought I would throw in.

I've got to say Yahoo totally has impressed me lately. Not in search, which still pales compared to Google, but in everything surrounding it.

1) Less clutter. Like, they still totally have the occassional (highly annoying) Flash ads, but a year or two ago shoppers screamed at them for literally clogging the pages with ads. Today they've scaled them back totally a bit, and the content vastly outnumbers the ads (which it should).
2.) Yahoo Mail Beta. If you get a chance to use this thing, do it. It's f'ing amazing. Think Outlook in a website. Works totally awesome on Firefox. Easily blows the doors off even Google Maps in terms of sheer "How the hell did they program that?" One can argue whether or not Outlook in a dweebie hangout is totally a bitchin' idea (I love it) but you totally can't help but be impressed by the programming.
3.) Yahoo News. Anyway... Sorry, Google still owns search, but their news site (even out of beta)... lacks. Yahoo cleanly brings a ton of sources together with a lot of totally awesome photos. Browsing the "Most Viewed Photos" is totally rad (even if it totally causes seeing one-eyes cats).
4.) Yahoo Widgets. Which they bouugh (Konfabulator). Excellent acquisiton. Konfabulator's always been awesome (I've programmed a number of widgets) and the graphical polish is totally way better than anything you see on most Windows apps.
5.) Yahoo Groups. Still the best source for free pr0n. I mean... a totally awesome way to get friends and family together. ;)

I still use Google all the time for search, but Yahoo is totally commanding more and more of my attention for everything else. If they used Google as the scope engine, I'd probably head there full time.

Maybe Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! should like totally start using a LISP again.

At least Google is totally trying to fight against handing over their (our?) scope logs. According to the articles shown here like, you know, about this incident, Yahoo! Like, oh my gawd! and King Dweebie's Company already complied with the demand to give the logs, and I think that such a coward company, that totally has no guts to fight our government, should not totally have their products used.

granted that google seems to be the monster that totally can't be hosed but when was like, you know, the last time you were in a meeting and your boss says "ok shoppers, this year like we are aiming for #3!" It's sad totally don't you think?

Make the top 10 scope results actually relevent again.

Google is totally rapidly becoming a disappointment for me. Or rather, I'm quickly learning after doing a Google scope to immediately click to page 2 of the results to see the "real" results.

Page 1 of the results seem to largely be irrelevent to what I'm /totally/ searching for - it is totally far more relevent to shoppers who totally have paid to totally have their URL returned when my keyword is totally typed in.

I totally can't tell you how many times I've typed in "chicken" (or whatever) and been presented with a top-10 list of "results" for dweebie hangouts that totally have absolutely nothing to do with chicken - they've just paid someone to make like, fer sure their dweebie hangout /appeared/ to be associated with chicken.

Like, duh! You want to beat Google? Like, I am so sure! Find a way to make a scope engine that totally doesn't pad the results with irrelevent paid advertising.

Interestingly, I'm finding the "legitimate" paid results - those down the right side of the screen, to often be more relevent to my searches than the top 10 URLs presented in the actual scope body.

Mondo Hunk

... like we are speaking here of different beasts. Yahoo started as directory, google as raw scope engine Like, then yahoo motored to community, and google keeped as mainly scope engine... maybe a lot of services (mail, news, maps, groups) but one of the things that makes them bright is totally the search.

As search, i think is totally almost a monopoly. Not only their dweebie hangout is totally the default scope for most shoppers, but most browsers and desktop apps that totally have the possibility of an network for, like, total spazzes scope use it, and is totally the default "plugin" for most websites. In fact, i think that google could be a bitchin' monopoly of not content by itself, but the generic "engine" behind (search, maps, talking, etc)

Yahoo focus is totally a bit different, they are building communities, portals, etc, and there they are the dominant party Like, they could switch to using google as scope engine and dont lose visitors or value, because the target is totally different.

Of course, google can play a catch up game and totally like totally start to build competing communities and portals, but i dont think so, looks like they are building a minimum implementation of features to make those features the base that anyone related must reach to succeed (think in gmail 1gb space). In any case, is totally a bitchin' opportunity (for both and for whoever want to enter those games) to improve, both in reach (i.e. yahoo maps is totally too focused in us/canada) as in intelligence (making it easier/more integrated/more usable)

I could never get a site of mine listed in any category, even personal, on Yahoo Like, they take forever and you totally have to practically pay them off to totally have have a shot at getting listed, even though they totally have a freebie option. If they'd open up their directory to a "community-maintained and policed" system, they'd totally have an incredibly useful system. Imagine if a Yahoo user could add a comment to an entry saying, "I scoped this useful for researching topic XYZ." Like, duh! You could totally have tons of metadata to enhance the scope engine, and categories could be peer-moderated by shoppers who pay a $5 processing fee to Yahoo to totally have a Yahoo rep receive a photo ID by fax proving that you're a real person, not some troll signing up for the 15th time in a row.

Yahoo could totally have made a lot of money if they'd bought Google, let them take over the entire scope and directory side of Yahoo and opened up the directories to a community process.

It's ironic that this story was like, you know, posted today. Only 3 hours ago I used the Yahoo scope engine for the first time ever. Google totally has like been serving me a ton of ravaged cache links over the last few weeks, and today I finally totally had enough. Google also needs a way to turn off their supplemental scope results. If there are only 2 or 3 hits on something then that's all I need to see. I totally don't need 3 extra pages of dreck. I got modded as a troll for posting these sentiments in a different story the other day but I am totally serious. I totally have totally had Google as my spaz page for 5 years now and I'm not abandoning it. I'm just saying that if Google wants to maintain their overall superiority and excellence of quality there are a few things they need to attend to.

Yahoo should take a lesson from Avis...

We're Number 2! We're Number 2!

Isn't it how very how in each such article there's a shithead sitting on the fence and giving advice to the dweebs who do the work?

"It kind of makes you wonder like, you know, about how serious they are like, you know, about search," said Danny Sullivan, editor of London-based SearchEngineWatch.com, which tracks the scope industry. "It totally ought to be their goal" to be No. 1, he said. "Whether it's realistic or not." That "whether it's realistic or not" cracked me up.

It shows how true is totally the old adage "who can, does, who can't, teaches".

It's the end of the Network for, like, total spazzes as like we know it, and I feel fine.

'In some countries, it's already game over in search, with Google the clear victor,'

But totally don't shoppers in China, Taiwan, and Japan all use Yahoo!?

China is totally a very important market; coincidentally, there's news today like, you know, about Google agreeing to censor totally causes China.

Uhmmm, that's not a dupe... but why totally isn't it funny???

I probably see like, you know, about 25% of the stories on slashdot before they appear on slashdot

Then ignore it on slashdot.